miyomo ha scritto:Eretiko ha scritto:
azz, questo finalmente uno schema, da li si capisce come funziona,
non mi piace che quando perdi 1 generatore hai lo "shedding" di:
fuel boost pumps, auxiliary fuel transfer pump, duct anti-icing and one gun motor
se c'è brutto tempo, la "cacca" è automatica.......
per non parlare del VSCF montato sul Super104 un sistema simile lo testammo su dei 737-400 al posto della combinazione CSD-AC_GENERATOR, non funzionava mai...
Ciao
Acc.. due ore che lo guardo e non riesco a trovare il "generatore DC"....

Ciao Miyomo, perchè cerchi il generatore DC? Non è installato su questo velivolo. Ci sono due generatori principali detti a frequenza variabile perchè azionati direttamente dal motore J-79. Quindi voltaggio e frequenza sono correlati al numero di giri del turbogas. La corrente continua è ottenuta per mezzo di due trasformatori e raddrizzatori posti sulla linea #2.
Per comprendere meglio: la tensione elettrica industriale viene fornita a 380 volts e con frequenza di 50Hz. Per variare i giri dei motori elettrici dei macchinari vengono utilizzate apparecchiature elettroniche digitali, inverter, che variano la frequenza di pilotaggio del motore. Quindi, diminuendola, si ottiene la diminuzione dei giri del nostro motore elettrico, ma non è tensione in corrente continua. Medesimo funzionamento per il generatore, solo al...contrario, dal momento che produce energia elettrica ma il principio è quello.
Esiste un terzo generatore detto a frequenza fissa perchè azionato da una pompa idraulica del sitema #2 e quindi produce energia sempre alla medesima tensione e frequenza, purchè chiaramente l'impianto idraulico sia in pressione con il J-79 in rotazione in IDLE.
Aggiungo ancora queste stringhe sperando di chiarire.
Ciao!
Electrical
Lockheed did a nice job when they designed the electrical system on this airplane. It is equipped with two batteries, two engine driven variable frequency AC generators, a constant frequency 400 cycle AC generator, driven by the # 2 hydraulic system, and a ram air driven constant frequency generator for emergency use. DC power is produced by two 28 volt transformer rectifiers. You can still land safely if only the emergency generator is operating.
Variable Frequency Generators
Two 20 kW generators, producing 320 to 520 cycle, 115 to 200 volt AC power are installed. The voltage and frequency depend upon engine rpm. For you physics freaks, each generator produces the electrical equivalent of a little over 25 horsepower.
The variable frequency AC generators will trip off below 65% rpm, about 2% below normal idle. The number 2 fuel boost pump will receive power down to 40% rpm, as it is tied directly to the generator.
The loss of one main generator results in loss of the # 1 secondary AC bus. The intake duct anti-ice, fuel transfer pump, and # 1 and # 4 boost pumps will be inop.
Constant Frequency Generator
The constant frequency 400 cps 115 volt AC generator is driven by the #2 hydraulic system. This little jewel can operate down to about 20% engine rpm. It provides power to the items that require constant frequency AC power. These items are on the primary and secondary fixed frequency busses. If the constant frequency generator fails, the busses will be powered from the emergency AC bus. In the event both main generators and the constant frequency generator fail, the secondary fixed frequency AC bus will be un-powered.
Ram Air Turbine Driven Generator
The "RAT", when deployed, drives the 4.5 kW 115 volt 400 cycle generator, as well as an emergency hydraulic pump. If all other generators fail, the "RAT" will power the emergency AC bus, primary fixed frequency AC bus, and through a 20 amp transformer rectifier, both emergency DC busses and the battery busses. The emergency AC bus will not power the fixed frequency AC bus as long as the hydraulic driven generator is operating.
Emergency AC Bus
In order for the Emergency AC Bus to be powered you must have one of the main generators, or the emergency generator on line. This bus does not load shed unless both engine driven generators and the emergency generator are inop.
Leading Edge Flaps # 3 Fuel Boost Pump
Training Edge Flaps` UHF Comm & Tacan
Windshield Defog Transponder
# 1 Emergency DC Bus
In order for the # 1 Emergency DC Bus to be powered by the primary DC bus, (gets it’s power from the 120 amp transformer rectifier), you must have one of the main generators on line. Otherwise, it is powered by the Emergency AC bus through a 20 amp transformer rectifier and the # 1 Emergency DC bus power relay. The # 1 Emergency DC Bus is un-powered when the flaps are operated during emergency electrical system operation. The items listed below are powered by the # 1 Emergency DC bus.
Landing Gear Indication Trim Control
Landing Gear Warning Warning Lights (Except Fire)
Landing Gear Control Rain Removal System
Rudder Limit Control Windshield Defogger
Speed Brakes Canopy Audio Warning
Stick Shaker Canopy Seal
Fuel Quantity Gauges External Tank Transfer
Hot Air Shutoff
Transponder
# 2 Emergency DC Bus
Number 2 Emergency DC Bus is powered by the # 2 AC Bus through the 120 amp transformer rectifier. If # 2 AC is not powered, the Emergency AC Bus powers it through the 20 amp transformer rectifier. Only two items are on this bus.
Leading Edge Flaps Trailing Edge Flaps
# 1 Primary AC Bus
In order for the # 1 Primary AC Bus to be powered you must have only one main generator on line. The inertial navigation heater is the only item on this bus. This is of little concern, as the INS will have most likely been removed and replaced with a smaller and lighter GPS unit, or just a Rolex and a compass.
Primary DC Bus
The primary DC bus is powered by the # 2 AC Bus through the 120 amp transformer rectifier. During normal operations, it in turn powers the # 2 Emergency DC bus.
Air Data Computer Seat Actuator
Auto Pilot Cockpit Spotlights
Nav Lights Duct Anti - Ice
Electronic Equipment Test Engine Air by-pass Flaps
Taxi Light Engine Inlet Air Temp
Radar Accelerometer
Voice Recorder Radar Dehydrator
# 1 Secondary AC Bus
Powered by main AC generators if they are both operating and on line.
# 1 Fuel Boost Pump Intake Duct Anti - Ice
# 4 Fuel Boost Pump Transfer Pump
# 2 AC Bus
Powered if at least one of the main AC generators are operating and on line. Loss of both main generators will render this bus un-powered.
Afterburner Ignition Optical Sight
Air Conditioning Oxygen Indicator
Anti - Icing Valve Pitot & AOA Probes
# 2 Fuel Boost Pump Auto Transformer for LDG Lights
CIT Warning System Radar System
Primary Fixed Frequency AC Bus
Afterburner Nozzle Indicator Cockpit Panel Lights
Auto Pitch Control Cockpit Flood Lights
C-2G Compass Standby Attitude Indicator Instrument Power Transformer Tacan & IFF
Secondary Fixed Frequency AC Bus
This bus is load shed if power to the # 2 AC Bus is lost. Loss of both main generators will make this happen.
Air Data Computer Stability Augmenters
Auto Pilot Fuel Indicators
Radar System Voice Recorder
# 1 Battery Bus
Powered by the Emergency AC Bus through the 20 amp transformer rectifier or by the # 1 battery.
Engine Start # 1 External Power Control
External Stores Release Fuel Shutoff
ENCS Emergency UHF Radio
Anti - Skid Nosewheel Steering
Engine Oil Low Warning Special Stores Drop # 1
# 2 Battery Bus
Powered by the Emergency AC Bus through the 20 amp transformer rectifier or by the # 2 battery.
Engine Start # 2 External Stores Emgy Release
External Tank Refueling Fire Warning System
Arresting Hook Main Generator Reset
ENCS Special Stores Drop # 2