I cinesi ne sfornano uno nuovo
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Le nuove creazioni in mostra http://aviationweek.com/defense/china-s ... ent-zhuhai (con fotine di J-31 e Y-20)
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E sforna oggi ..... sforna domani .....
..... proprio alla vigilia del salone aerospaziale di Zhuhai ..... ne hanno appena sfornato un altro ..... di incerta, ma non troppo, origine .....
http://aviationweek.com/blog/zhuhai-sur ... sonic-ascm
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..... proprio alla vigilia del salone aerospaziale di Zhuhai ..... ne hanno appena sfornato un altro ..... di incerta, ma non troppo, origine .....
Fonte ..... "Zhuhai Surprise: China’s Third “Russian” Supersonic ASCM" .....China’s 10th Zhuhai Airshow does not start until next Tuesday, but it already has one new rock-star on the Chinese military-blogosphere, the new CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM) from the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT).
Already, scores of images of its full-size display mock-up show an uncanny resemblance to another famous supersonic ASCM, the Mach 2.8-3.0 speed Russian-Indian BrahMos.
Both share the distinctive cone-inlet air intake, a two-stage structure and similar dimensions.
http://aviationweek.com/blog/zhuhai-sur ... sonic-ascm
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Sembra una copia del Brahmos indo-russo...
il video della sua particolare sequenza di lancio...
il video della sua particolare sequenza di lancio...
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Pazzeschi i razzi in testa al missile che, in sequenza, lo mettono in assetto...
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Le 'stelle' di Zhuhai 2014 .....
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ai-405836/
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Fonte ..... "AIRSHOW CHINA: J-31, Y-20, MA700 to star at Zhuhai" .....The 2014 version of the biennial Airshow China in Zhuhai will see a number of firsts for the rapidly growing event.
With the show due to start on 11 November, most of the aircraft that will participate in the show have now arrived.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ai-405836/
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Una sorta di mini A400M .....
http://aviationweek.com/zhuhai-2014/avi ... -airlifter
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Fonte ..... "Avic Shows Model Of New Turboprop Airlifter" .....Avic has revealed a model of a turboprop military airlifter approximately in the class of the Lockheed Martin C-130.
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The aircraft features a high-wing, body-mounted main landing gear with two tandem wheels on each side, a T-tail and six-bladed propellers.
http://aviationweek.com/zhuhai-2014/avi ... -airlifter
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se tutto va per il verso giusto o sabato o domenica vado al salone
Ciao, Marco
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Bene !Guren ha scritto:se tutto va per il verso giusto o sabato o domenica vado al salone
Facci sapere .....
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Il punto debole ..... la motorizzazione .....
http://news.usni.org/2014/11/10/new-chi ... jet-engine
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Fonte ..... "New Chinese Stealth Fighter Relies on Russian Jet Engine" .....Meanwhile, the domestic Chinese People’s Liberation Army versions of the J-31 might eventually be fitted with a variant of the Guizhou WS-13 engine—which is theoretically in the same performance class as the RD-93. However, it is unclear how much progress the Chinese have made with developing the WS-13.
Most Chinese engine developments to date have not been successful.
http://news.usni.org/2014/11/10/new-chi ... jet-engine
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Potrebbe chiamarsi 'Y-30' il nuovo aereo da trasporto militare il cui modellino (peraltro ancora molto provvisorio) viene in questi giorni presentato al salone di Zhuhai ..... ma occorreranno ancora parecchi anni prima che esso possa diventare operativo ..... sempre che il programma venga autorizzato .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/new-chi ... vice-2020s
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Fonte ..... "New Chinese Airlifter Could Enter Service In 2020s" .....A Chinese airlifter revealed by Avic this week will go into service in the 2020s if the factory behind the project, Shaanxi Aircraft, is given a go-ahead.
The program is at the stage of concept design, say Chinese industry officials.
It should be launched into full-scale development in about two years, they add.
If it is, and if development is smooth, a first flight could take place in 2020.
http://aviationweek.com/defense/new-chi ... vice-2020s
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Mamma ..... come fuma .....
"FC-31 Makes Airshow China Debut" .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/fc-31-m ... es-1218151
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"FC-31 Makes Airshow China Debut" .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/fc-31-m ... es-1218151
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I Phantom avevano questo problema, in Vietnam venivano avvistati a miglia di distanza per il fumo.richelieu ha scritto:Mamma ..... come fuma .....
"FC-31 Makes Airshow China Debut" .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/fc-31-m ... es-1218151
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Avevano trovato l'escamotage di tenere uno dei motori a minimo post bruciatore per bruciare i gas dell'altro
ed eliminare la scia di fumo.
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richelieu ha scritto:Mamma ..... come fuma .....
"FC-31 Makes Airshow China Debut" .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/fc-31-m ... es-1218151
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E' senz'altro motorizzato Diesel Common Rail e penso abbia problemi alla pompa o al debimetro.
Spiridione.
Ho volato su un MD80 così vecchio, che sulla porta di una toilette c'era scritto ORVILLE
e sulla porta dell'altra WILBUR....
Ho volato su un MD80 così vecchio, che sulla porta di una toilette c'era scritto ORVILLE
e sulla porta dell'altra WILBUR....
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Hanno usato i motori del mig-29?
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Un loro derivato .....MatteF88 ha scritto:Hanno usato i motori del mig-29?
Dalla fonte precedentemente citata ..... http://news.usni.org/2014/11/10/new-chi ... jet-engineThe Chinese Shenyang J-31 stealth fighter will use Russian-built engines when it enters production.
The prototype was known use Klimov RD-93 engines, which were derived from the Soviet-era Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrum’s RD-33 afterburning turbofans.
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pensavo che il ws-13 fosse già in uso e fosse una versione del motore del mig-29...pensavo male..
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Questo invece è stato 'sfornato' da parecchio tempo ..... ma, Pakistan a parte, stenta ancora a trovare altri acquirenti .....
"CATIC hunts elusive JF-17 export deal" ..... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... al-405956/
Al momento attuale ..... il Pakistan sta provvedendo all'aggiornamento dei propri esemplari .....
"Pakistan outlines JF-17 upgrade activity" ..... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ty-405957/
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"CATIC hunts elusive JF-17 export deal" ..... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... al-405956/
Al momento attuale ..... il Pakistan sta provvedendo all'aggiornamento dei propri esemplari .....
"Pakistan outlines JF-17 upgrade activity" ..... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ty-405957/
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Non si direbbe, a colpo d'occhio, ma é l'evoluzione del Mig-21 (quello made in china)richelieu ha scritto:Questo invece è stato 'sfornato' da parecchio tempo ..... ma, Pakistan a parte, stenta ancora a trovare altri acquirenti .....
http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/fighter ... tions.html
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Verissimo ..... e le sue origini sono alquanto lontane .....MatteF88 ha scritto:Non si direbbe, a colpo d'occhio, ma é l'evoluzione del Mig-21 (quello made in china)richelieu ha scritto:Questo invece è stato 'sfornato' da parecchio tempo ..... ma, Pakistan a parte, stenta ancora a trovare altri acquirenti .....
http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFAr ... 201745.PDF
'CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder' ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC/PAC_JF-17_Thunder
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A large-scale model of the Shenyang J-31 (called FC-31 at the show) drew crowds.
Differences from the flying prototype included sweptback vertical stabilizers and chevron-edged exhaust nozzles.
Credit: Bill Sweetman/AW&ST
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Nuove informazioni sul velivolo quadri-turbina 'classe C-130' proposto al salone di Zhuhai .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/avic-pr ... -airlifter
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Fonte ..... "Avic Proposes C-130-Size Y-30 Airlifter" .....A Chinese airlifter as big as the Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules will go into service in the 2020s if the factory behind the project, Shaanxi Aircraft, is given a go-ahead, as expected.
The program is at the stage of concept design, say Chinese industry officials close to it.
Full-scale development should begin in about two years, they add.
If it does, and if progress is smooth, a first flight could take place in 2020.
http://aviationweek.com/defense/avic-pr ... -airlifter
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Y-30 ..... ne parla 'Jane's' .....
http://www.janes.com/article/45803/airs ... ft-concept
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"Airshow China 2014: AVIC reveals new medium-lift transport aircraft concept" .....The model features an airframe design similar to that of the Airbus Defence and Space A400M Atlas multirole transport aircraft, with a wider fuselage and four turboprop engines driving six-bladed propellers.
However, it is uncertain if this configuration will be representative of the actual development, should it proceed beyond the conceptual design phase.
http://www.janes.com/article/45803/airs ... ft-concept
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La presentazione pubblica del J-31 (o FC-31 che dir si voglia) ..... una mezza delusione ?
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... st-display
L'intenzione è comunque quella di renderlo disponibile a quei paesi che non si possono permettere (o ai quali non è consentito) di acquistare lo F-35 .....
"With J-31 Flight, China Makes a Statement" ..... http://www.defensenews.com/article/2014 ... -Statement
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Fonte ..... "China’s FC-31 Fighter Disappoints in First Display" .....There have been rumors that a team of Mikoyan designers assisted Shenyang in the development of the aircraft. Senior MiG officials deny this and state that the design is completely Chinese.
If they were involved in the FC-31 design, MiG officials might not want to take any credit, because the display at Zhuhai revealed some poor aerodynamic efficiency.
The aircraft bleeds too much energy and the pilot had hard time keeping the nose up during turns and other maneuvers.
He also had to engage afterburners far too often to maintain a proper energy utilization curve.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... st-display
L'intenzione è comunque quella di renderlo disponibile a quei paesi che non si possono permettere (o ai quali non è consentito) di acquistare lo F-35 .....
"With J-31 Flight, China Makes a Statement" ..... http://www.defensenews.com/article/2014 ... -Statement
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Il debutto pubblico, a Zhuhai, del cargo militare Y-20 .....
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... but-zhuhai
A fianco di un C-17A dell'USAF .....
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Fonte ..... "China’s Y-20 Airlifter Makes Low-key Debut at Zhuhai" .....Making its debut at this year’s Airshow China in Zhuhai was the Xi’an Aircraft Works (XAC) Y-20 military cargo lifter.
This aircraft first flew in early 2013, with photos appearing on PRC aviation enthusiast websites.
They showed the aircraft still in factory primer and with the prototype number “20001” painted on its fuselage.
These unauthorized (and in accordance with Chinese law, essentially illegal) photos of the aircraft were the only images that had been seen of the aircraft until the Y-20 showed up at Zhuhai, painted in PLAAF colours and now with the number “783” on the fuselage.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... but-zhuhai
A fianco di un C-17A dell'USAF .....
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Un grosso mock-up dello FC-31, esposto all'interno di un padiglione del salone di Zhuhai, presenta alcune differenze aerodinamiche (e non solo) rispetto al prototipo presentato in volo .....
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Fonte ..... "China’s Stealth Fighter Could Get a Lot Better - Model hints at possible FC-31 enhancements" .....We don’t know much about the FC-31, China’s other stealth fighter prototype.
But a non-flying model of the FC-31 that appeared at the Zhuhai air show in southern China in early November offers some compelling new clues.
That’s because the model is different than the flying FC-31 prototype—which also attended the Zhuhai show.
Comparing the model and the plane could reveal Shenyang Aircraft Corporation’s ambitions for its new stealth jet.
The model boasts better stealth features, new engines and a wider range of sensors.
If Shenyang adds all these enhancements to the FC-31, the resulting fighter could more closely match the American F-35.
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Altri 100 motori russi Klimov RD-93 per la Cina ..... sarebbero destinati al caccia cino-pakistano FC-1/JF-17 'Thunder' ..... ma, si è saputo in occasione del recente salone di Zhuhai, equipaggiano anche il velivolo di quinta generazione Shenyang J-31/FC-31 .....
"Airshow China 2014: Russia to supply China with more RD-93 turbofans" .....
http://www.janes.com/article/45852/airs ... -turbofans
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"Airshow China 2014: Russia to supply China with more RD-93 turbofans" .....
http://www.janes.com/article/45852/airs ... -turbofans
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Bill Sweetman commenta il recente salone di Zhuhai ..... e focalizza la sua attenzione su sistemi missilistici e apparati radar .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/opinion ... e-fighters
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L'articolo ..... "Opinion: China’s Radar and Missile Work Means More Than Fighters" .....Zhuhai was full of new missile hardware .....
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What is impressive, however, is how many new Chinese missiles there are, and how they fit together.
One visible trend is the reuse of components to meet different mission needs.
Since it appeared at Zhuhai in 2012, the CM-400AKG air-to-surface missile has gathered a lot of attention as a high-supersonic anti-ship weapon.
http://aviationweek.com/defense/opinion ... e-fighters
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Lo diciamo a chiare lettere ..... il nostro può buttarlo giù .....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/ ... Q720141209
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Fonte ..... "China's stealth fighter could "take down" foreign rival - industry exec" ....."When it takes to the sky, it can definitely take it down," he said, in a reference to the U.S.-made F-35.
"That's a certainty."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/ ... Q720141209
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Questi, invece, li ha sfornati Taiwan .....
http://www.janes.com/article/46788/taiw ... ier-killer
Degno di nota il nuovo scudo stealth di origine locale che protegge il pezzo da '76' .....
Video .....
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Fonte ..... " Taiwan releases first firing footage of HF-3 'carrier killer' " .....Taiwan's Chung Shan Institute of Science & Technology (CSIST) has released footage showing the indigenously made Hsiung-Feng III (Brave Wind III, or HF-3) supersonic anti-ship cruise missile and Tien Kung III (Sky Bow III, or TK 3) surface-to-air missile system successfully completing test firings.
The footage is the first showing of these missiles in service.
http://www.janes.com/article/46788/taiw ... ier-killer
Degno di nota il nuovo scudo stealth di origine locale che protegge il pezzo da '76' .....
Video .....
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I progressi del J-20 .....
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Fonte ..... "China’s Building Stealth Fighters Faster and Faster - Sixth J-20 prototype takes off" .....The first prototype for China’s J-20 stealth fighter appeared in blurry photos in December 2010.
Almost exactly four years later, the sixth J-20 has taken flight, just three weeks after the fifth.
Beijing is building J-20s at an accelerating rate.
And with six of the huge, twin-engine planes in the air for testing, China is well on its way to finalizing the J-20’s design—and getting the new fighter ready for front-line service.
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J-20 ..... un'analisi di Jane's .....
http://www.janes.com/article/47601/anal ... -programme
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"Analysis: End of year surge for Chengdu J-20 fighter programme" .....In November and December 2014 two additional prototypes of the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation's (CAC) J-20 fifth-generation fighter emerged, advancing its development towards a possible initial operational capability (IOC) of 2017-18.
The J-20 programme currently features six known prototypes.
Two are early technology development articles (serial numbers 2001 and 2002) that emerged in 2009 and 2010, while four are modified versions closer to operational prototypes (serial numbers 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015) that all emerged in 2014.
http://www.janes.com/article/47601/anal ... -programme
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Quest'anno, a quanto pare, 'sforneranno' anche una grande parata militare .....
http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg ... story.html
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Fonte ..... "China plans rare military parade to mark end of WWII, highlight power" .....Since 1960, China has held just three military parades, and always on Oct. 1, when the country celebrates its National Day..
This year, however, the country appears to planning such an affair in September, to mark the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II, according to reports in Chinese state media.
http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg ... story.html
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Secondo Jane's ..... (280 of 431 words) ..... "PLAAF reportedly receives first Y-20 airlifter" .....
Secondo Avia News ..... "Chine, entrée en service du Xian Y-20 !" .....
Chissà poi perché questi qua enfatizzano il titolo di ogni loro articolo con un punto esclamativo .....
Secondo Avia News ..... "Chine, entrée en service du Xian Y-20 !" .....
Chissà poi perché questi qua enfatizzano il titolo di ogni loro articolo con un punto esclamativo .....
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Perché così si nota di più !
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Per non parlare dell' uso smodato che il blog The Aviationist fa, nei titoli dei propri articoli, del termine stunning .....Valerio Ricciardi ha scritto:Perché così si nota di più !