Canada, JSF e ..... ?????

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Canada, JSF e ..... ?????

Messaggio da richelieu » 9 gennaio 2013, 9:54

Nella discussione dedicata allo JSF si era parlato, nei mesi scorsi, di quanto stava accadendo in Canada in relazione ai dubbi circa l'acquisto del controverso aereo e sul possibile ritiro del grande paese nord-americano dal costoso programma .....

Riporto qui alcuni dei links più significativi .....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... nt-378420/
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... s-f-1.html
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 85ff11e85b
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 715e82a96d
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 2384a2d375
http://news.yahoo.com/canada-says-revie ... nance.html
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 613e0f081b
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.asp ... 527971.xml

E' di ieri la notizia che Dassault Aviation è pronta a farsi avanti con il suo "Rafale" .....
Dassault Sees Prospects For Rafale In Canada .....

French plane-maker Dassault Aviation will respond to an information demand from Canada on its Rafale fighter plane and would be ready to participate in a tender, were Ottawa to backtrack on its support of Lockheed Martin’s F-35, new chief executive Eric Trappier told French daily Les Echos.
Fonte ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.asp ... 534581.xml

Inoltre ..... il citato articolo di "Les Echos" ..... http://www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-sect ... 526539.php

Come avevo allora previsto ..... è probabile ci si trovi all'inizio di una nuova telenovela .....

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Re: Canada, JSF e ..... ?????

Messaggio da mendris » 9 gennaio 2013, 16:08

Tentativi di Dassault che, finora, sono rimasti tali... Speriamo che il costruttore francese abbia capito che è però inutile tentare di alleggerire i costi per il contribuente francese mantenendo fatture alte per i potenziali clienti esteri. In Svizzera aveva inviato però anche una preofferta con costi stracciati... La farà anche con il Canadà?...
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Re: Canada, JSF e ..... ?????

Messaggio da MatteF88 » 9 gennaio 2013, 16:34

Se si riapre davvero la faccenda sul post F-18 magari anche il consorzio eurofighter parteciperà.. :roll:

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Messaggio da richelieu » 9 gennaio 2013, 23:53

Michelle d'Auray ha scritto una lettera .....
Canada Taps Market for Fighter Options .....

In a Dec. 27 letter to Boeing, Dassault Aviation, Eurofighter, Lockheed Martin and Saab, Canada's public works and government services department said the five companies could expect to be queried in early 2013 for more detailed information regarding their respective fighter programs.
Fonte ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 1d5257681d

Il testo della missiva ..... http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/app-acq/st ... r-eng.html

Immagine ..... http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/apropos-ab ... r-eng.html
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Messaggio da richelieu » 29 gennaio 2013, 0:09

Il Canada dialogherà con i produttori ..... però .....
Canada Talking To Manufacturers About New Fighter Jets .....

By Reuters (via AW&ST - January 28, 2013)

Canada is reaching out to five aircraft manufacturers to replace the country’s aging fleet of CF-18 jets, renewing an effort that has been drawn-out and troubled.

Canada announced in 2010 it would give a single source contract to Lockheed-Martin Corp for 65 F-35 jets but later reversed course as cost estimates soared.

Ottawa has set aside C$9 billion ($8.9 billion) to buy the new jets.

The public works ministry, confirming earlier leaks from senior government officials, said in a statement on Friday that Ottawa would talk to Lockheed Martin and four other companies:

- Boeing Co, which makes the F-18 Super Hornet

- EADS, which makes the Eurofighter

- Saab AB, which makes the Gripen

- Dassault Aviation, which makes the Rafale

The ministry said it would send a questionnaire to the five seeking detailed information on the technical capabilities of fighter aircraft in production or scheduled to be in production.

Once the companies have replied they will be sent another questionnaire seeking detailed cost estimates.

The government last year tore up its plan to buy the F-35s after a spending watchdog said officials had deliberately downplayed the costs and risks of doing so.

Ottawa says it could still eventually decide to buy the F-35, which has been hit by cost overruns and delays.
Link ..... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.asp ... 541348.xml

Visto ?
..... col Canada c'è sempre da aspettarsi un "però" ..... :wink:

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Messaggio da richelieu » 11 dicembre 2014, 19:16

Ritorno su questa discussione, da tempo trascurata, per riportare le ultime novità circa i patèmi che affliggono i Canadesi in tema di F-35 .....
A new report prepared for Ottawa on options for new fighter jets gives the government an excuse to avoid buying the F-35 if it chooses.
Analysis undertaken by the Department of National Defence found that it’s “highly unlikely” Canada would find itself participating in first-strike conflict with other countries that have sophisticated air-defence systems – a scenario where the Lockheed Martin F-35’s vaunted stealth capabilities and other features might be most useful.
Fonte ..... "New fighter jet options mean Ottawa could avoid buying F-35s " .....
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e22036016/

In questa pagina i links ai vari rapporti ..... http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=913309

Alla fine, visto e considerato che il Canada non prevede di trovarsi in futuro impegnato in conflitti ad alta intensità, si prospetta la possibilità che la scelta non cada sullo F-35 ..... senza contare che il risultato delle imminenti elezioni potrebbe avere, come già avvenuto in passato, un peso determinante .....
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Messaggio da richelieu » 11 dicembre 2014, 21:00

Da 'Flightglobal.com' .....
A new Canadian government report suggests other fighter jets are just as capable as the Lockheed Martin F-35A at fulfilling the nation’s most likely mission needs, potentially opening the door to a competitive acquisition process to replace a fleet of 77 Boeing CF-18s.
Four aircraft – the F-35, the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon – were compared in the report, called the Evaluation of Options for the Replacement of the CF-18 Fighter Fleet.
L'articolo ..... "Canada rates F-35A rivals equal on most missions" .....
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ns-407025/

"Summary Report - The Evaluation of Options for the Replacement of the CF-18 Fighter Fleet" .....
http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/app-acq/st ... f-eng.html
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Re: Canada, JSF e ..... ?????

Messaggio da richelieu » 23 dicembre 2014, 23:47

E ..... poteva forse mancare l'inevitabile commento di Bill Sweetman ?
One way or another, it seems Canada’s fighter procurement is headed for the competition that Ross and others maintained in 2010 would be a waste of time.
If the Harper government had started a competition then, it would have a decision by now, and that does raise an interesting question.
If Harper and his colleagues thought the F-35 was so great, why didn’t they want to prove it through an open contest?
Fonte ..... "Canada Backtracks On 2010 Fighter Claims" .....
http://aviationweek.com/defense/canada- ... ter-claims
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